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The State Must Change Sincerely Its Attitude Religiously
 

Oh My Indians! Babri Masjid Speaks
 

The State must change sincerely its attitude religiously by avoiding the misuse of religion  and the people be advised honestly, as already said, ‘The Headmen of Church (Religion), not as religious as masses consider and think them, and Headmen of any Church obey rulers very cunningly, but not gently ...’   

Church Obeyed US President Obama
A "Very Clear Message" Was Conveyed

http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Church%20Obeyed%20US%20President%20Obama.htm

Uma Bharti in jubilant mood after the demolition of Babri Masjid on 6th December 1992
 [Photo: OutlookIndia]

Oh My Indians! Babri Masjid Speaks 

India within its Constitution! What?

But India in practice! What?

Analyze and decide! 

Or 

Ask Babri Masjid who speaks

It will continue to speak

What is India in practice?

Feeling demolished and humiliated again

“Is India a Sovereign Socialist Democratic Republic?

Also is it with a parliamentary system of government?”

Babri Masjid speaks 

 

India within its Constitution! What?

What is India in practice?

Analyze and decide!

As to how Babri Masjid speaks?

 

Like Advani aspiring

To be a Prime Minister as its head

Advani aspired to be PM as its head

By hammering on my head

Babri Masjid speaks

 

Now demolished and humiliated again

Shred my heart because it questioned?

My dignity and truth that I was ever existed

Especially Justice Sharma claimed

He passed Judgment and talked

Like as he is a Mahant of a Dera!

 

No legality, hence Judgment to be ignored

Left to the Supreme Court to shape it

So that Judgment should look legal

By way of compromise among the parties

Under the whip and command of State

What Justice Sharma did like a Mahant!

 

The wounds

The Karsewaks under the BJP leader L.K.Advani,

had given me are raked up again.

The rest you read and link

As to how Babri Masjid speaks?
http://twocircles.net/?q=2010oct03/babri_masjid_speaks.html

By
Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
Chief and Spokesperson, Sikh Vichar Manch
  

Related Links also read comments: 

 Church Obeyed US President Obama
A "Very Clear Message" Was Conveyed

http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Church%20Obeyed%20US%20President%20Obama.htm 

A Political Analysis of Church- Religion and Its Headmen
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-A%20Political%20Analysis%20of%20Church-%20Religion%20and%20Its%20Headmen.htm

Are We Near To The Truth? 
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-Nanak%20Question.htm

http://web.mac.com/williammabey/iHome/My_Thoughts.html 
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-POEM%20Honesty%20and%20Deception.htm
 

Honesty and Deception
By Balbir Singh Sooch

 

Afraid to answer! 

Is life of honesty or deception?

To remain honest to hide deception

Honesty and deception are brother and sister

Hide from each other as learned from author

Running Narrow to open and open to narrow

Deception and honesty run together

 

Afraid to answer!

To say honest what kind of deception it is?

And similarly to say dishonest what kind of honesty it is?

Crying to be honest what a pain of honesty it is?

To be anxious in pain is deception

Real honesty is minus nervousness

Crying, crying is life of deception

Without playing, silence and normalcy are real honesty

Man is actor missing altogether in the mortal World

 

Afraid to answer!

What is act of God?

Without playing, silence and normalcy

Nervousness of greed is act of actor

How to judge difference between actor and worshipper of God?

Actor always anxious in pain but not worshipper of God

How to be worshipper different from actor?

Be away from greed and deception

Not to play, cry, joyous but be normal in life

Then man shall be near to God

Then to be difficult to differentiate act of man and God

What a combination of man and God?

 

Understood!

But afraid to answer!

Because of difference between man and God

Whether life is of honesty or deception?

Man is actor not worshipper of God

But afraid to answer who are actor and worshipper of God?

To be anxious in pain is deception

Without playing, silence and normalcy are honesty of life

Whatever is the difference between honesty and deception?

Same is the difference in act of God and man

Deception to fall and like act of God honesty to prevail

http://twocircles.net/?q=2010sep30/babri_verdict_aimplb_member_asked_leave_bhopal_6_months.html&nocache=1#comment-176814

Before Babri verdict, an AIMPLB member asked to leave Bhopal for 6 months

Two out of three judges have

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on 2 October 2010 - 1:20am.

Two out of three judges have Bachelor Degree in Science not Politics .
They have given verdict based on logic not faith .It was proved beyond doubt that there was a Hindu Religious structure present below the mosque .

Reply

The Option between the ‘Generalists’ or the ‘Scientists’

On the question of option between the ‘Generalists’ or the ‘Scientists’ (Specialists), who are to be considered better as Judges, Administrators, Rulers, the answer has to be the ‘Generalists’ only?

However, the Judges having such a long experience, the arguments against them shall not be justified on this issue.

Whatever, they did, intentionally and deliberately’ and the reasons are best known to them.

The case was to be decided by the legal experts not by the scientists as being appreciated here.

Moreover, science students being considered specialized only in a particular field are rarely preferred for law.

To avoid their entry in law, the three years course now being replaced slowly with five years course after 10+2 class pass students in India.

In five years course in law, during the first two year, only art subjects and in remaining three years, law subjects are taught to the students. However, after such a long experience of the Judges, the arguments for and against the Judges do not matter in this case.

http://twocircles.net/?q=2010sep30/babri_verdict_aimplb_
member_asked_leave_bhopal_6_months.html&nocache=1#comment-176814
 

Before Babri verdict, an AIMPLB member asked to leave Bhopal for 6 months

The Sikh Vichar Manch does reiterate its comments on the subject sent so far.

By
Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
Chief and Spokesperson, Sikh Vichar Manch
 
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000753376567 

http://twocircles.net/?q=2010sep30%2Fbabri_verdict_aimplb
_member_asked_leave_bhopal_6_months.html&nocache=1#comment-176814
 

http://twocircles.net/?q=2010oct03/babri_masjid_speaks.html&nocache=1#comment-178077

Ayodhya verdict

http://twocircles.net/?q=2010oct01/ayodhya_verdict_lesson_coming_generation.html&nocache=1#comment-177890 

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/devils-advocate-arun-jaitley-on-the-ayodhya-verdict/132154-3.html 

http://www.frontline.in/stories/20101022272100400.htm   

http://twocircles.net/2010oct12/ayodhya_verdict_beyond_liberal_brahmanical_framework.html

The Ayodhya verdict, beyond the liberal Brahmanical framework
http://twocircles.net/2010oct12/ayodhya_verdict_anger_laughter_introspection_relief.html?nocache=1#comment-178539
Ayodhya verdict: anger, laughter; but in introspection, relief 

 

 

What an extremity of intolerance and injustice experienced in India?

Some may call it purely religious act, but the act fundamentally for the political reasons on the part of communal parties, organizations, groups including similar  parties with mask on, in gross violation of the constitution of India, so daringly and openly, the judiciary also acted  as a party to it.

No end to the injustice and intolerance insight presently in India.

The world opinion is required further to be building up against the unending injustice and the intolerance in India, that’s being carried out cruelly in the manner under the garb of democracy, independent judiciary and the constitution of India.

Comment by

Balbir Singh Sooch, Advocate, Ludhiana
Chief and Spokesperson, Sikh Vichar Manch
 
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/
http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100000753376567

Related: Link to read-Thanks 

The State Must Change Sincerely Its Attitude Religiously
http://www.sikhvicharmanch.com/Religiou%20Politics-The%20State%20Must%20Change%20Sincerely%20Its%20Attitude%20Religiously.htm

Dialogue on Babri only after SC verdict: Syed Shahabuddin
http://twocircles.net/2010oct07/dialogue_babri_only_after_sc_verdict_syed_shahabuddin.html?nocache=1#comment-178282 

Shia leaders reject VHP's Ayodhya proposal
http://twocircles.net/2010oct07/shia_leaders_reject_vhps_ayodhya_proposal.html?nocache=1#comment-178283

 
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